May 05, 2003

Dano, the New Blogging Software from Blogger

For the past couple of days I've been exchanging emails with the creator of Media Dystopia. I noticed his site from my BlogMatcher results and upon reading a few of his seemingly frustrated posts about errors in the Blogger Pro software, I sent him some info on other blogging tools (and found out the Blogger team has put all the fixes on hold for now).

He just informed me that Blogger has been working on a new software package called 'Dano' (with an inconspicuous code name: Blogger New [they must have had the Windows NT branding team around during that nomenclature decision]).

The FAQ and Release Notes aren't too particularly informative. They did mention RSS feeds which will definitely provide a boom to not only news aggregators and meme collectors, but also in developing more of the Semantic Web.

I should note that they are not using RDF/RSS 1.0 as the feed. Apparently they've decided to go with Changes.XML, from Userland - and as you can see in this feed, the elements aren't exactly too descriptive (or helpful for an advanced AI agent). And to reaffirm that conclusion, you quickly read the "How changes.xml works" (note to self: does not look like the Dublin Core, but it's soooo simple). By the way, the RSS feeds are nothing really new as it has been a feature of Blogger Pro for sometime now.

The 'Dano' project looks like it's only been public for a couple weeks and they haven't fully migrated existing Blogger Pro users over to it yet (as seen with my correspondence with Dystopia).

Speaking of Blogger Pro, is anyone else confused with how Pyra presented BlogSpot Plus and Blogger Pro? Yea, they are different: BlogSpot Plus offers image hosting and a few other perks (like bStats) and Blogger Pro currently offers all the features you can find in Nucleus or Movable Type. And I suppose you could integrate Pro and Plus to make the Super Duper Blog Combo with or without a cape.

They have a funky pricing structure too (I’m betting TypePad will be alot more straightforward and simplified than the Blogger peeps). Currently you can sign-up for Blogger Pro at a discounted price of $35 (it will go up to $50 when they "officially launch"). Then they impose a posting limit of 100KB/month. After you hit your limit you are charged $3/100KB more. In the month of April my posts alone account for more than 300 KB. Based on their FAQ images do not count against that total, but that’s another story too.

Note: the CNET review they link to from the Blogger Pro FAQ was less than meticulously detailed (yea, not very thorough, plus the reviewer made a small mistake stating “100 MB” instead of “100 KB”).

This is what I know so far: Blogger Pro has a bunch of features, some of which are on hold until ‘Dano’ is officially released. Pyra (or whatever you want to call them now) is in the process of migrating Blogger Pro users over to ‘Dano,’ so those users will still have broken features until some pigs fly. As a Blogger Pro user, you can still utilize the BlogSpot servers for free; however you can’t upload images unless you upgrade to BlogSpot Plus (or if you use your own server).

My question is this, if you’re using your own server why don’t you just migrate to Nucleus or Movable Type? They both can offer the same features and neither group will nickel and dime you (despite some contentions).

Basically, what needs to happen is that Pyra or Google or Chewie needs to streamline what in the world is going on. A list of complete, bug-free features for all the different plans side by side would be great.

As it stands now, the pricing is pretty steep as well, especially the BlogSpot Plus. Googling the term “web host” provides an almost limitless amount of cheaper solutions for hosting blogs (not to mention a certain company that offers the whole enchilada at better rates).

I’m interested in seeing what they will do with ‘Dano,’ my hunch is it is Blogger Pro fixed with a few more features and repackaged with the $50 price tag. Note: still no sign of TrackBack, however they do have a "secret" part of 'Dano' as illustrated with the greyed out 'suprise' box on their Blogger New site.

Posted by Tim at May 5, 2003 04:41 AM | TrackBack
Comments

Ill be interested to see if you get a blogbar in english.. that would be pretty useful. It does seem silly to me why people would pay for the Blogger Pro when you have great free tools like MT and Nucleus out there. Hell, there is even a free alternative to the "AudBlog" thing. Have you seen voicemonkey?

Posted by: Taylor at May 5, 2003 02:15 PM

That's pretty cool, though WMP is giving me some problems. Oh, and it appears the creator is in Dallas so I could call and not have to worry about any long-distance charges -- what kind of dirty geek jokes do you want to hear?

Posted by: Tim at May 5, 2003 03:43 PM

Hugh is great and voice monkey is great :)
I want to hear dirty jokes so get on it babee! :)

Posted by: gnome-girl at May 5, 2003 04:56 PM

The Number is toll free anyways :)

(888) 870-6116

I have a public mailbox #0077
After you leave a message heres the link to listen to it:
http://www.voicemonkey.com/mailbox/0077/latest.m3u

It can get pretty fun :)

Posted by: Taylor at May 8, 2003 02:57 AM

I have just started researching blogging software for a new website about a popular tourist town in Mexico. I want to offer a website where the content is primarily built by local citizens and businesses and services providers. My host is a TrueBasic plan on Interland which has me on a Linux server. Perl, Cgi, mySql, ASP are welcome, PHP is not. Later, I may want to change my plan with proven success and lots of traffic. However, without PHP as an option on my start-up, what is the best inexpensive software that does not require PHP, or a SQL database, and is very friendly to not only lots of public forum posting, but, has flexible archiving?

Posted by: thunder at August 3, 2003 09:25 AM
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